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Crafting College Lists & Vists Using AI

January 27, 2025

Can AI see something you can't see as a college advisor?



Guest/Host

Kate Sonnenberg | KS College Success | kate@kscollegesuccess.com

Cyndy McDonald, PPA/MA, The College Counselor's Coach | cyndy@cyndymcdonald.com


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Show Notes


Using AI

Check out some of the many resources mentioned in the Friday Forum

Resources shared by Kate Sonnenberg


Resources shared by Cyndy McDonald



Resources by Jeffrey Neill


Questions/Answers

This session generated a lot of questions. Here are Kate's answers to questions that were not answered in the session.


1. Q: How do you let them know? an email? or include it in the initial contract? Can you share the wording of this?

A. I do not address AI in my contract. I address AI in my Policies and Procedures, but only to say that students can not use AI to write their essays. When I want to use AI for the fit assessment—sometime in the late summer before senior year —I start with a conversation with the family explaining the tool, how I safeguard confidentiality, and why I think it is valuable. Then, I send an email summarizing the conversation and ask a parent to reply to the email confirming they are comfortable with me running the fit assessment tool.


2. Q. Does chatgpt tell you where it gets information?

A. My paid version of ChatGPT is now sharing sources. 


3. Q. One thing AI doesn’t deal with in this example is institutional priorities.

A. ChatGPT cannot address institutional priorities because they are rarely published/expressed. To the extent we, as an IEC, are aware of priorities, we can prompt the model to include them. You could also ask the model if can find any information about institutional priorities that have been publically reported.


4. Did you come up with the questions on your own in a survey?

A. The questions I use for the fit assessment were adapted from Maria Kalogero in an article she wrote on LinkedIn.


5. Q. You mentioned that you ask for student resume and other documents from the student/families. What other docs do you collect?

A. I do not ask students for resumes—we draft them together in the spring semester of junior year. I do not collect many documents from students. My students start with me in early high school, but I do want a transcript at the of junior year.


6. Q, Do you have students do a formal resume or is it just a simple document with the activities and descriptions and dates, etc. but the format is not like a typical resume:?

A. I have students do a formal resume. I want them to be able to give it to teachers when they submit brag sheets, and it's the basis for our activity descriptions. It's nice to go to college with a resume. Sometimes, they also use it when applying for summer internships.


7. Q, Were both students male?

A. Both students were female.


8. Q. Do you show ChatGPT their full resume or their activities list within character counts?

A. For this exercise, I use the resume. It includes information that the activities list doesn't have, like grades, test scores, and relevant classes.


9. Q. Do you use this for essays, too?

A. I use a different tool for essays, not looking at fit per se. But you could adapt this for essays.


10. Q. I think part of the question was more about the need for a resume when many kids find that the activities list and awards section can capture everything they want to share.

A. Not all students will send a resume to college (in fact, most won't). But they still have a resume that they can use for other purposes and I use the resume as the basis for our activity descriptions.


11. Q Do you use a tool to help create resumes? I wonder if those are considered AI help?

A. I do not use a tool to help create resumes. I am considering allowing students to use ChatGPT for their resume blurbs, but it's an exercise I am working on and it's not going to generate a complete blurb but options for students to review, revise and consider.


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